VA CATEGORY 8 CARE UPDATE
2008-Dec-18 at 12:37 by Veterans Law Project
A key lawmaker is urging President-elect Barack Obama to move slowly and cautiously on his pledge to grant all veterans medical attention at Veterans Affairs Department facilities, or else risk clogging they system and harming quality. Obama said repeatedly during the campaign that one of his first acts as president would be to sign an executive order permitting veterans with non-service-related disabilities to seek medical care within the VA system. These so-called “Priority Group 8” veterans make up the lion’s share of living American veterans. Vets are designated as Priority 8 when their income exceeds a pre-set threshold, which varies from county to county based on the level of affluence in a given location. They are the most affluent category of vets, but some earn as little as $28,430 a year. Until 2003, these veterans were permitted to seek treatment at VA health facilities, but the department announced a freeze on new Priority 8 enrollments that year to alleviate a 300,000-plus patient backlog and quell a funding crisis. Chet Edwards, chairman of the House Appropriations Military Construction, Veterans’ Affairs and Related Agencies Subcommittee, says that he will fight to fund VA health care for Priority 8 veterans but that he wishes to do so at a gradual pace. “Even if we had unlimited dollars, it would take time to hire all the doctors and nurses,” said Edwards, D-Texas. “We don’t want to double, triple, quadruple the wait times. I would urge the administration to maintain the goal but spread it out equally.”
This approach would involve continuing to raise the Priority 8 income threshold over a number of years to gradually include more and more veterans. Congress authorized $375 million in the fiscal 2009 Military Construction and Veterans Affairs spending measure (PL 110-329) to raise the Priority 8 income threshold and bring more of these veterans into health-care-eligible categories. But it is unlikely that the amount appropriated will do much to move the threshold to a significantly higher income level, according to a Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee aide. So far, the Obama presidential transition team has declined to disclose details on the implementation of his campaign promise, but it is certain to be expensive, however the new administration decides to do it. If Obama orders a plan to gradually raise the threshold to eventually cover all veterans, it would require Congress to continue to increase record funding for the VA year after year. Aides note that if he wants to make all Priority 8 veterans eligible at the same time, it would likely require an emergency supplemental spending bill that would total billions of dollars. With Congress already providing $700 billion to help bail out failing banks and other businesses, the government’s capacity to provide another supplemental spending measure is questionable.
Obama will have plenty of backers on Capitol Hill for his VA medical coverage plans. Rep. Bob Filner, chairman of the House Veterans’ Affairs Committee, contends that there are actions Congress can take to bring all Priority 8 veterans into the VA health care system at once. For example, the VA currently has an inefficient system for recouping money from private health insurance companies when covered veterans go to the VA for treatment, said Filner (D-CA). Installing more effective tracking technology would reward the VA with billions of dollars, he added. “I have talked to people who have systems to do this, and they are telling me about several billion dollars, easy,” Filner said. “I have seen $3 billion or $4 billion estimated.” Filner also said Medicare should reimburse the department when Medicare-eligible veterans get treatment at the VA. “We are saving them money,” he said. Sen. Patty Murra (D-WA), a potential chairwoman of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee in the 111th Congress and a member of the Military Construction and Veterans’ Affairs Appropriations Subcommittee, is also a strong proponent of giving Priority 8 veterans full VA health care eligibility. “While the VA health care system certainly has its share of problems, closing its doors to thousands of veterans who have served us is not the answer to fixing them,” Murray said. “That means expanding access, but it also means providing the funding and resources to hire doctors and staff, invest in VA infrastructure, do research, and decrease the wait on benefit claims. We make a promise to all veterans when they sign up to serve that, regardless of their future income or health needs, they will receive VA medical care.”
Like Edwards, veterans’ advocacy groups favor a more gradual approach. Their main concern is that opening up the VA’s health facilities to at least 400,000 new patients could put the VA on the same faulty financial footing that plagued the department before 2003. They also say it is not just a matter of securing funding; they say the VA would need time to put the money to use by hiring new doctors and clinical staffers, building and leasing new facilities, and procuring new equipment. “If he just opens the gates wide open and says everyone is eligible now to enroll for VA health care, then we would find ourselves back in that same situation again,” said Joseph Violante, national legislative director for Disabled American Veterans. "While the VA has gotten nice budgets the last two years, it will not be in a position to care for a large influx of new veterans,” Violante said. “We would wind up getting rationed care for all the veterans that are in the system, including the service-connected disabled.” Rationed care is a large concern at a time when thousands of service members are returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan with severe injuries. “We are concerned that adding more veterans into the system may take away priority for the service-connected wounded, especially the most severe service-connected,” said Bob Wallace, executive director at Veterans of Foreign Wars. “They need to be taken care of before anybody else.” [Source: CQ Veterans' Affairs Matthew M. Johnson article 18 Nov 08 ++]
2009-Jan-26 - getting into the va system Posted by mlmannin
From 1969-1973 I served my country with a elete special forces unit. after my entlistment I persued a career in which I had medical insurance. I didn't use the VA because I was under the impression that it was for service conected disabilities. Now I am getting close to my retirement years and am told because I didn't use this facility earlier I am in a catagory called 8g (not elegibable). I volunteered and honorably servered my country, now I feel left out.As I understand it our senators and congressmen get their benifits.. a little help here please
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2009-Jul-7 - category 8 healthcare
Posted by Anonymous
I waited to long to enroll at age 72 after 1993, was told I was cat.8. should have done it sooner. why not now put everybody who enrolled before 93 who has no disabilites into cat 8, give that extra $ to the fellows who really need it. makes more sense to me than whats happening now
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2009-Nov-25 - Veterans Healthcare
Posted by David Leo Rice
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
6:30 PM
To Whom It Should Concern,
I have written previously and I expect this letter to get as much response as those letters.
Yet, in my mind I still believe, more of a hope, that someone will do something about the incompetent, inadequate, callous, immoral, unethical, negligent, unprofessional manner which seems to be rampant throughout the VA healthcare system.
From my personal experiences with the VA I often wonder why my life was saved only to endure decades of pain, suffering and a quality of life less than that of most humans. It was/is not the so-called enemy I fought, it is not the crazy man who took out my eye, it is the treatment/care that I have received throughout the VA healthcare system that has and is the cause of my concern.
In the last two years several examples of the VA’s so-called healthcare include,
Sending me home from the hospital with morphine instead of the medication that I was supposed to have,
Withholding medications, after telling me they were not going to, causing me several months of pain so bad that I could not even get to the bathroom, immersing my legs in containers of ice in an attempt to alleviate the pain, considering suicide because the pain was so bad, calling an ambulance (which is difficult in the extreme due to the PTSD which makes me a close brother to anyone with agoraphobia) several times to take me to the emergency room where they shot me up with pain med and meds for the panic and anxiety brought on by being out and about. The last time I had to call an ambulance I went to the emergency room and ended up having a massive/major heart attack resulting in a hour and a half ride in another ambulance to the hospital where, the day before Christmas I had 5 stents put in my heart. The same heart that has two pieces of shrapnel, the size of 22 caliber bullets, embedded in it, the VA knew of the shrapnel for over 20 years, but forgot to tell me about them. This fiasco of healthcare caused me months of pain, suffering and inability to take care of myself that I dare not see the person(s) responsible, to me, they are the enemy and I do know how to deal with people who threaten my life and cause me pain.
Presently I cannot even walk 20 steps without having to sit or lay down because of the pain in my legs, hips and back. The pain derives from untreated herniated discs and severe arthritis in my neck, back and hips. Why was my conditions untreated? It was due to the fact that even though the VA knew of these conditions since 2007 they, once again, failed to inform me. At this time I am not able to care for myself and have to pay money for help doing such simple tasks as dishes, laundry, housecleaning etc. I have been incapacitated for several months and do to the severity of the untreated conditions; conditions that would have been easily treatable, I have been told could last for months more, if not years.
I am a 60 year old 100% combat disabled Marine, legally blind, crippled and crazy and the time I have left is not going to be a hell of a lot of fun, but I do not need incompetency, stupidity and the just plain lack of professional healthcare to make it any worse.
If there is not a law, there should be, making healthcare providers inform their patients of existing conditions instead of letting the conditions deteriorate and become so damnably severe that they lower a person’s quality of life and cause so much pain and suffering. The lack of professionalism affects more than the patient and there is no need for such incompetence to be allowed to continue.
I have heard and talked to veterans a lot worse off than I am from receiving treatment at the VA.
I also know there are a few really great people working at the VA and I applaud them. I only wish they were running the VA.
David Leo Rice
1025 E. Chippewa St.
Mt. Pleasant, Michigan 48858-1850
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